Responding to:
John Hebley said the following on 10/20/08 11:08 PM:
Philippe, JonMay the force be with you. I was about to rant and rave about incompetent managers etc, but that would be just preaching to the choir.
That is a new topic, if you want to discuss it. How do you work with these, often senior managers, that have no idea what you are trying to do, and insist on applying 1970's thinking?
John
A partial list of my responses to an "older manager":
At the end of the day, I know I am doing my best, often working harder than anyone to achieve the ultimate business goals that the project has been chartered to achieve. I live and breathe the project business goals. I let the chips fall where they may.
For obvious reasons (to me, anyway), in any complex project that I am involved with, there would be no chance of me doing it as fixed-price work. That would compromise being able to respond to the "human" parts of the project and client needs.
-- jon
ps: My personal response can range widely, I am sure. Here is the beginning of one (of many) behavioral profiles for me:
Jonathan likes to be forceful and direct when dealing with others. His desire for results is readily apparent to the people with whom he works. He is driven toward goals completion and wants to be in a position to set policy that will allow him to meet those goals. He displays a high energy factor and is optimistic about the results he can achieve. The word "can't" is not in his vocabulary. Many people see him as a self-starter dedicated to achieving results. Jonathan is aggressive and confident. He is deadline conscious and becomes irritated if deadlines are delayed or missed. He is a goal-oriented individual who believes in harnessing people to help him achieve his goals. He needs people with other strengths on his team. He is often considered daring, bold and gutsy. He is a risk taker who likes to be seen as an individualist. Jonathan may have difficulty dealing with others who are slower in thought and action.
An agile modeling poster:
How does agile prevent stovepipe systems and implementations. My inquisitor seems to think that agile development processes actually increase the incidence of stovepipe systems and thinking. (I'm paraphrasing here)
Agile is recursive.
Just as the power of components, objects, interfaces is applicable in the small or in the large...
The parallel being: the mere existence of the "tools" to avoid poor solutions doesn't mean that poor solutions will not happen. We still have excellent code and poorly-written code.
The overarching agile requirement is to use good old-fashioned, smart thinking.
Agile neither precludes nor promises brilliant designs and abject failures. Only people can do that.
Apply the tenets of agile development recursively "upward" and you might be able to avoid stovepipe thinking.